Anytime I have made two pair on PKR it has been beaten. Playing on PStars this morning I folded 2 pair that would have taken down a huge pot.
PKR has affected the way I play ... lol.

lol, this is spooky. I just sat down on PKR in the BB. I get dealt K6 suited. There was a minimum raise so I decided to see the flop cheaply. It came down K-6-7. I bet out the pot, he called. Turn was a 3. I bet out again and he pushed back all-in. It wasn't too much more for me to call, so I did. He had 4-5 so hit his straight. No K or 6 on the river to save me

And this was just a few minutes after I read the last few posts in this thread. lol

Funny reading this thread - I play 2 pair very carefull on any poker site. It nearly always gets me into serious trouble

Whichever way is chosen....the losers will always whinge but - statistically -there really is no reason why a real life deck wouldn't be presented in perfect card/suit order so as long as everyone is playing to the same spec then it's all fair!

Played a SnG just now, twice I had flopped two pair and twice I got beat on the river, once to a straight and then a flush. Mind you I was putting in 3/4 and pot sized bets to make calling draws poor value, but I dont think many players on here take that into consideration. They call you down on hope more than anything.

This is poker and anything and everything will happen to you. Here are 2 live examples from my personal play at this years WSOP.

These are 2 separate hands in the same day. Both times I hold AQ.

Example 1: I raise, he goes allin. I have him well covered and decide to gamble and call. He turns over KK. I think I'm done, the Flop gives me a gutshot and the River brings me the wheel and he storms off on tilt.

Example 2: We're one from the $ and I raise. I quickly get reraised and call. Again I have a massive chiplead. The flop gives me another gutshot. Knowing that we're one from the $ I put the other player allin (decision time, call and lose and the player goes home with nothing). All of a sudden they announce that we're in the money and the player calls. (bad timing for me I'm thinking). She has QQ, turn is no help to me, River makes my straight for another wheel.

Yes I was super lucky both times, but I had massive chipleads on the other players and I wanted to build chips. Plus I was feeling lucky.

These are live examples on the worlds biggest poker stage. What card shuffle they use is unimportant as in the long run every can and will happen. Stop thinking about shuffles and bad beats and just play your game.

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There was a London card club that was prosecuted for trading without a gaming license. They fought the case on the grounds that they only play poker and poker is not a game of chance but skill. They lost the case, and to be honest, although it was hoped they would win, the court and the jury were correct in the fact that the game of poker is a game of chance.

Sorry I don't agree with that ruling. Poker is a game of skill with an element of chance. The Courts in California ruled that it's a game of skill.

There's a reason you see the same players winning over and over.

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Have to agree, there is definitely skill involved. As an example, I once raised pre-flop with 8-7 suited and got one caller. The flop came down A-K-3 and none of my suits. I had nothing, no pair, no draws. The other guy checked and I bet the pot. He thought for a while then folded. He showed his folded cards as 10-10. So was I lucky to win that hand?

I've also made some good reads on bluffs lately. I called a raise with 55 the other day. Flop was 3-3-2. He bet out, I called. Turn was a 6. He checked, I checked. River was a 2 (two pairs on board). Now he bet the pot. His betting patterns just didn't seem right. He was trying to say he hit the flop. His check on the turn suggested he didn't hit after all, then he was trying to make out he hit again on the river. His pre-flop raise made it easy to rule out hands with a 3 or 2 so I was sure he didn't have the full house. If he'd got an overpair, I'm fairly sure he would have bet the turn but he stopped dead. I was 90% certain he had AK or AQ and the flop bet was a continuation bet. I called and sure enough, he had AK. So was that luck?

There's no doubt you do need some luck. If you have KK v AA and it's down to the river with you both all-in and you need a King to win it, no amount of skill in the world can influence that river card. And if that miracle 2 outer does hit, there is no way anyone can claim it was skill. That is pure luck.

But there is certainly no doubt that a lot of skill is involved elsewhere. I wouldn't like to sit in a cash game with the likes of Negreanu and Phil Ivey. I don't think I'd last too long

Yeah, as Marc Goodwin say's "Good Sponorship and not having to worry about the buy-in allows name players to gamble in major tournaments without fear of loosing the buy-in, and when their luck is in they get the chips, if not, on to the next tournament until it comes good"