although i can see why some people could think that.
Im going out of my head today.
I think the problem is idiots playing!
the crazy wins you see from people calling or raising you with sweet FA in their hand...you'd never see these calls in live games because the majority of people who play in live games have a lot more sense. Even if, in real life, you've put the same £20 into a game you might online, its different..you have the money there, it means more so you play much more carefully.
The best thing i find, in tourny play online, is to mark yourself away from table and go and make a cuppa, have something to eat and come back half an hour later when natural selection has gotten rid of a lot of people.
I agree its frustrating.
While i've been typing this post, i've been playing (carefully, while i get back into it) and i've been beaten by shite about 6 times in a row. purely because these people do not understand how the game works.
they do not respect your bet and they do not play with the intelligence that other people play with.

anyway, am done ranting now
im just a bit pissed off at constantly having to play with 'all inners'
is really really frigging annoying!

AH you son of a bitch,i just got rivered!
someone goes all in with 3/9 off suit, i call with AK suited
nothing on the board and they pull a 3 on the river
aaaah

i totally agree with you,every now and then you do run into some of these idiots and it is very annoying.
most of the time ill try and stick it out but if i cant then ill either move tables or log off and take a break.

if we stick together we can beat the idiots lol.

Good to see this debate is still alive.
I'm pretty much on the fence again with this one, occasionally I like to jump down onto the side of the conspiritors, as I believe it would be very easy for any site to fiddle their algorythms and get away with it. And if they can potentially make a bit more money doing this, then why wouldn't they?
But like I said I'm on the fence, maybe all poker sites are fair and honest
The fact remains that if it is the players, then I'd rather not play there anyway. I do better against competent players who know what they're doing, as they're much easier to read, rather than a bunch of suckout fish. Why play in a lucky dip lottery when you can have a proper game of poker with good players?

Yep, PKR seems to attract a fair amount of bad players or maybe they are just new to the game. Yesterday I played at a cash table with a guy from Spain who just played every hand, no matter what. His stack was going up and down because he got lucky a few times but he also lost a fair bit. Raises didn't deter him either. He called a 5x BB raise with J-2 off suit. A J hit the flop and he played it like he had a monster - unfortunately for him the guy who raised 5x BB had K-K and took a fair bit from him.

It's plays like that I just don't understand. What the hell can J-2 be beating to warrant a call from a decent raise? Virtually any J would be beating it for a start because of the worst kicker in the pack. He has no straight draws, flush draws or anything

at the risk of going to jail for 10-20 years is a good reason

people suggest that PKR potential cheats, and quick to say they change the out come of hands to make a few extra bucks.

is it possible that the RNG in current use, is just not that good?

Am playing again (ive nothing else to do today, no work and missus is away)
and idiots on the table again.
I suppose its not too bad, one person went all in and took two callers (who had nothing) out of the game.
I still dont think its rigged though, as assistanc3 said..someone would catch them out, there are computery types geekier than i who would find them.
ah, ever have one of those calls where you don't clock the flush draw on the board and go all in with your three kings? lol. Dammit! must pay more attention.
anyway, i can see why a lot of new players would be attracted to PKR, visually its miles ahead of anything else but i think realistically to learn to play well you need to learn offline or in private tournies online...you'll just pick up the bad habits of others
i cant believe i didnt see that damn flush.
cant blame this website either, i wasnt on it when the river hit :'(

Just like to say that sitting out at the begining of a MTT to avoid the fish seems a bit strange to me. You should have confidence in your play and learn to take a bad beat, after all they are a big part of the game and will always happen.

In a MTT (and other games) you will always get a certain amount of players who will chase any sort of hand and your AA, KK, AKs etc will occasionally lose to these players. But in the long run, you will win hands down.

In my (humble)opinion, it is much better, and makes much more sense, to win as many chips early doors from these weak players so you have a chance later in the tourney when the blinds are higher.

I agree with Blunder. Sitting out early is bad play as you can earn lots of money off the weak/loose players and this will put you in a better position for the later stages.
A better tactic might be to play super-tight (top 10 starting hands for example) and try to avoid any all-ins or big raises, unless you're in a winning position.

I have to say that in no way am I saying that PKR is rigged, all I'm saying is there is a possibility that any Poker sites could fiddle their code and make more money

But who is going to know/find out? It would be very hard to spot changes in the code

I agree that it could just be the RND is duff

yes your right, they could change/rig/fiddle
but at the risk of losing everything?
and going to jail and never able to run another poker company?
sounds like playing 72o to me

UK Gambling Commission would/could