... but my patience is running out. lol

I've been playing at Party Poker today and enjoyed a much better game. Got a decent sign up bonus that seems fairly easy to clear ... just need to play 1,000 raked hands in 10 days. Easy.

Anyway, I still have a decent chunk of cash in PKR so I thought I would play a sit and go before bed. And it certainly made me closer to making Party Poker my new permanent home. lmao

The defining hand was being deal AA (you all know what's coming right? ... lol)

Anyway, flop was A-10-x. Wow, I'm happy with that. I bet out fairly big, one caller. Turn is blank. I bet again, he calls. I've now invested most of my chips into this pot, only got about 600 left out of 1400 before the hand started. Anyway, river comes a Jack. Now, at this point, I sat here and laughed. I KNEW he had KQ under there because, hell it's PKRiver right?! So i told him I knew he had KQ and I really couldn't be arsed to mess around with this software anymore so pushed in my last 600 chips so I could go to bed. He did indeed show KQ. PKRiver strikes again.

When I get up, I will be withdrawing almost everything I think, leaving just a few dollars to muck around with when I'm bored. I have lost total confidence in the software. My day at Party Poker didn't produce anything to compare to PKR and I actually enjoyed it. Nice to see hands hold up, nice to bluff occasionally. There were bad beats, obviously, but the flops and the board consistency definitely feels different.

It's a shame. I am a winning player on PKR and I like the software, but I'm getting fed up with it.

This is just my own personal opinion. I don't think PKR is rigged in any way, however I do not have 100% confidence in the shuffle algorythm used.

Good luck at the tables

you get the right read and still push all your chips in?

So you are suggesting that the algorithm knowingly gives people favorable rivers? Because that pretty much sounds to me your saying its rigged :P

I think what a lot of us are saying, is PKR rewards river play. They don't take a cut unless you get to the river. This means nothing in tournaments, but everything in cash ring games. Would not make sense to have two type of dealing.

I logged a game the other day and nearly every single flop has 2 of 2 suits in it, if not 3. i.e club club heart heart. or Diamond, diamon, diamond, club, club

'tis why I quit putting money in.

I've said before I could be 100% wrong. But either way. My money has stopped going in.

We are chastised as being paranoid and that "all sites have the same on their forums". Maybe that's the case, but I'm playing on a site where a flaush / straight is a rarity rather than the norm.

Lests look at some odds here shall we.

Odds of 2 suited cards on the board = 55% (no joke)
Odds of making a flush by the river when you flop a flush draw = 35%

Odds of 2 card in sequence on the flop = 40%
Odds of making a straight when flopping an open ended straight draw = 32%

How can PKR deal "too many" suited flops when 1 in every 2 should have 2 suited cards on it. The problem with PKR is not the software or the RND, its the in-experianced players who will chase and chase and chase and chase and chase. 2 times out of 3 these players will lose and you'll take their cash, but those arn't the times your going to remember. I also know this isn't much comfort to you when some donk chases their flush and hits knocking you out of the tournament, but when you stick your money in the middle with the best hand then its a +ev play (except for those rare occasions when it isn't :P).

If you keep making correct decisions and playing to the best of your ability your going to be a winning player. Even on the donk fest that is PKR (personally i love it, i am far more profitable on PKR than i am live or on other sites).

If you are referring to rake, they take rakes after the flop. The only time they don't is if the hand ends preflop.

I was referring to 2 + 2 or 3 +2 - i.e. flush possibilities for two suits at the same time.

i.e. club club spade, spade, spade
or club heart heart club diamond

always enough to take the players to the flop chasing a flush

I still maintain I make no accusations of any wrong doing. I simply don't like the way it seems to be the norm so I'm playing where it is not the norm. I had a quick pkr game the other day and the 1st 10 odd hands, bar one, was a possible flush draw.

LIke I said, each to thier own, but I've given up. It is far more likely to be the players than pkr themselves, either way - I lose at pkr all the time and win elsewhere.

btw - if you want to know where I get my mild mistrust from, just search for the history of UK gaming (fruit) machines. It was only after the emulation cummunity downloaded fruit machine roms and were able to pause and "rewind" games on their PCs , and have another go at pushing the same button that they discovered the machine had predetermined whether you lost or won, no matter what button or when you pushed it.

Now all UK fruit machines have an, obviously, small lable on them telling you that sometimes your actions will have no bearing on the outcome whatsoever.

If they got away with hiding this for so long I have no doubt it's applied all over the place in other aspects of gaming.

Hmmm, lets see. Trip aces, 600 chips left, pot of around 1700, so odds of about 3-1 if he calls. Hard to see anyone fold that Assistance whether you think you have the read or not. I did get the read right, but you can't be 100% sure (or can you? lol).

As stated, everything I have said is my own opinion and as such I could be completely wrong but it is a decision I have made on my own judgement. I will emphasise that I don't think PKR is rigged, despite how it might sound. I just don't enjoy playing there anymore.

Most of my cash has now been withdrawn and I'll be mainly playing $5 MTT's (won 2 of these, mainly luck I think. lol) now to run out any bit of cash I have left.

ps: To ice the cake, entered a small $3 STT to see how it went. Maniac sat there obviously didn't want to play poker and kept shoving all-in on the flop. He limped from the button, I limped from BB with A-9. Flop comes 9 high. He pushes all-in and I don't think he has an overpair because he limped. I called and I was right. He had J-9. I thought he had no draw. lol, how wrong I was. 2 spades on the flop, he has the 9 of spades so a back door flush draw. Sure enough, runner runner spades. Only $3 lost but the annoyance factor grows. lol

PKR - Game fairness and account security at PKR

Will tell you that their RNG has been evaluated by an independent company, so I think this is slightly different to fruit machines that are obviously programmed to make money.