lol...I hear ya...I really have the same problem.
Mabe it´s cause we ( at least me ) have made some withdraws...?
I don´t know...but more and more people seems to have this problem to.
Someone have any other idea?

Well while i've got bundles of free money on pkr - i'll play here, i still play on 6/7 other sites -all of which have there benefits to me. As long as I can keep my bankroll heading in the right direction, and I can control my violet rage... then there won't be plan B as yet... although i'll keep my sniper rifle handy !!

However...

I am currently doing some major research into ALL the aspects of the Twister RNG, its place in poker (for which it was not created for), its card drawbacks, the fact that the RNG does not have anything to do with the distribution of cards, the recorded contradictory viewpoints of PKR reps and statements, the Aldernay Gambling Control Commission and its realtime monitoring of gameplay (of which there is none), PKR's recorded stats and hand result percentages (which defy all mathematical probability and fly in the face of all known physics properties), the unopeness in divulging certain information by PKR, the lack of PKR correspondance, the lack of ANY professional endorsement, the government standing on-online gaming (Clare Short), the Dept. of Fair Trade... and even the intervention and juristiction of the Fraud Squad !! I do have some very influential people looking at this now, who previously had an interest in staying neutral, and now also believe that there is some kind of improper dealings afoot.

There are now more forums and discussions about the negatives of PKR poker hands than ALL the other poker sites combined - this tells its own story

I am also viewing the other side of this - the proven intergrity of the RNG as a stand alone unit, the moral and ethical approach by most gaming sites, the financial implecations and non-gain from extradicting its users, the similarity between many other gaming sites, the cost effectiveness of an RNG upgrade and its advantages the lack of an officaial Poker Board of any kind, the disappointment factor and higher expectancy from PKR (because of its amazing graphics and ground-breaking gameplay)...and mostly, the many many unreasonable complaints about bad beats that arrive from either bad play or simple donkey callers/inexperienced players lucking out.

There are now more forums and discussions about the positives of PKR 3d game play, than ALL the other poker sites combined - this tells another story.

I don't think i'd get any disagreements from anyone, anywhere(experienced on and offline players that is) on these issues as, as yet, there are no definative answers... but there are 2 main points to remember:
1/ there will always be complaints (regardless of being on the winning or losing end)
2/ people who learn how to play texas holdem online and from tv highlights, have an unrealistic perspective, and this is very VERY bad for the face of poker in general - forcing it into more of a lottery than ever before, and negating whatever skills may develop

...but I know that everyone would be happier if PKR were to:

a/ address the card distribution problems to attain a more realistic game

b/ address the slow playing tactics - or hold blind times between table hands

c/ stop putting all tournemant chip leaders on the same table

d/ have a much more accurate table balancing scheme
(ive played in 10 seater tourneys (4 tables left) where 2 tables have 10 players, 1 has 8, and 1 has 6 - for over 20 mins.... and a 6 seater where 2 tables have 6 players and 1 has 3 - what a blind killer that is when ur short stacked and it doesnt adjust)

e/ improvements to the realtime pkr support chat (sometimes takes 25 mins to reach a rep)

f/ more strictness on abusive players and foreign chat


I guess what i'm saying is...watch this space

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Ok, I am just curious now. I notice that this discussion is going on, but I miss the exact point.

Is it: the underdog draws his card allways on the river, more than mathematical probability?
Like AA vs 33 and the 33 draws his last 3 on the river?

or

The flops, turns and rivers on PKR are totally unrealistic?
Like suited boards or connected boards.

In case it are the boards: You guys seem to play on lots of different poker sites. So you have your PKR hand histories and hand histories from other sites, like pokerstars and partypoker. Why dont you guys compare 1000 PKR boards with 1000 Partypoker and 1000 Pokerstars boards. There must be some read out software somewhere.

In case it is the "underdog allways wins" I believe it is because there are lots of inexperienced poker players on PKR. PKR is a graphical intense game which attracts lots of new players. All the people who play poker since a long time are already playing on other older sites like partypoker.
Inexperienced players seem to draw more towards their hands, and when you have the top hand, but there are still 3 other players trying to draw their hand on the river, the chance of 1 out of those 3 hitting is quite high.
Also, inexperienced players think in money, rather than blinds, especially on low stakes tables. When you play at a 0.05/0.10 table and you get dealt AA and you raise like 6 times the BB, there are lots of players that dont think like "omg, he raised 6x the blind, he must have someting" but "hmm... do I have 60 cents to spare"
I think it is correct to state that on PKR, more players draw their winning hand on the river compared to other poker sites. But it is not because of the rivercards being flawed or something, but more that on PKR lots and lots of people are still in the hand when the river comes. Much more than on other poker sites.

So, if you have time to spare, you should code some software that can read out the hand histories from different poker sites.
1st. Read out all the flops, turns and rivers
If PKR has a flawed RNG, it will become obvious quite easily. (Too many paired boards, suited boards, connected boards and so on)
2nd. Read out the number of people who actually see the rivercard.
If on PKR 70% of all the hand reach the rivercard, and there are on a average still 4 out of 10 ppl in the hand, while on party poker only 50% of all the hands reacht the river with on average 3 out of 10 ppl in the hand, you can conclude it are the players rather than PKR who are responsible for your bad beats.

Excuse my bad english, I am Dutch.

Dunbar, you are 100% correct in everything you said. PKR and this forum as well have a lot of new players. They don't understand the mathematics involved in playing poker. We've been trying to teach them, but for some reason they would rather complain than take the time to learn to play proper poker.

If you've been playing for a while, you will remember that Party went through he same growing pains a few years back.

It's NOT the RNG, it's bad play. If you want to play better then join our new poker school 3D Poker School

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And I just encountered a classical example of bad play

Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Qc Qs] to Dunbar
Dunbar raises to $700
manolodello folds
ajh87 calls $700
Dealing Flop [Ks 7h Jd]
ajh87 checks
Dunbar bets $1000
ajh87 calls $1000
Dealing Turn [2s]
ajh87 bets $810 (all-in)
Dunbar calls $810
ajh87 shows [Jh 5c]
Dunbar shows [Qc Qs]
Dealing River [5h]
ajh87 has Two Pairs: Jacks, 5s
ajh87 wins $5120 with: Two Pairs: Jacks, 5s
Seat 2: ajh87 - $5120
Seat 3: Dunbar - $340
Seat 5: manolodello - $3540

Unfortunately some players are blaming PKR for plays like that. That is a classic example of terrible play.

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