(this is aimed at those that believe PKR is rigged)


Hi,

I've been playing online for around 4 years now. I've been a poker whore in that time, jumping from site to site, mostly after a bad beat.

I've played on Mansion, Pokerroom, Poker Stars, UK Poker, Titan, 888, Ladbrokes and of course PKR.

The common theme through most sites are the complaints about bad beats, rigged software etc.

C'mon folks! If you could play 10 home games in a night, seven nights a week i'm convinced that you would see some bizarre hands busting the odds.

The major difference is that your home game is unlikely to contain as many fish and donks as online play offers.

Bad Beats are exactly what they say on the tin.

Sometimes you're rockets will be busted by a straight on the river, the fact that your opponent was fishing all the way and was lucky enough to catch his card on the river is just the way it goes.

Chances are, they had no right to follow your bets.

But RIGGED!, that tends to be a losers argument. Get over your loss, re-adjust your play, look at your game, take a break.....whatever, but don't suggest that a site is rigged.

Alternatively, leave, head for another site, play long enough and you will observe others suffer the same fate.

Up your stakes, then you will observe less fish, players tend to be tighter. Generally i find the games are a lot more tactical.

PKR offers great play, yes there are fish by the hundreds, but they are your payroll. The 3D interaction offers a new dimension.

Lastly, get your head out of the sand and into some books. Learn your game, trust you intuition. Generally mine is rarely wrong and if nothing else when i lay down my 'monster' hand i know i'm still in the game, rather than just 'believing' that my hand should win purely because it has the odds.

You cannot account for others stupidity for following your structured betting and then them hitting on the river and clearing you out, that's Poker!

Rigged......my @rse!

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Shuffle Up and Deal

Yep, the poor players on PKR are unavoidable (and indeed other sites) and some of them really do your head in. I was busted out of a tourney when my AK was called by 10-8 off suit and he rivered an 8. He was "defending his blinds" against my big raise apparently. And yesterday I saw a player lose a load in a cash game when he raised with AK suited and was called by the BB with 9-3. Two 9's hit the flop with an ace and it was messy. Some of the calls I see really are unbelievable and they do sting, but in the long run you should come out on top against the donks. It's always nice to see a donks hand after he has called all the way to the river with top pair and a poor kicker and you take his cash. Those moments make it worth while

I can't be bothered to argue about this anymore.
I've played on enough sites to know that PKR's RNG is not right, and this is coming from a winner - someone who deposited $20 and left with thousands. I am no loser, just someone who is more than concerned.
The main concern is the deck gets shuffled twice - and there is no mention of 'what' shuffles the deck second time around. And why on earth would an already shuffled deck, need to be reshuffled? There is no reasoning to do this whatsoever...

The boards always seemed to be set to get as much action as possible. you only get two other callers from your preflop raise, yet all 3 of you hit sets or draws - and this doesn't just happen once, it happens almost every hand.
Your flurry of amazing hands, all come with a flurry of Godawful beats.
Yes, it is partly to do with the players, but when I play poker, I take odds in mind - and instead of me coming out on top 1 out of 7 times, it'd be 1/2, and for me...that isn't good enough.
The odds of losing with a full house to quads, twice in an hour and three times in the session are astronomically tiny - yet it happened to me. Oh and quads, thats another thing - i'd see them every session. I've been at Hollywood and Full Tilt for just under two weeks, and i've seen less than four.

From the end of April until two weeks ago, it was literally impossible for me to finish every 48 hours with profit. You win big one day, and then lose it the next. Ironically, the session you lose the most, is the session you get the nicest hands and the sweetest of flops.

I've been playing elsewhere for around 10 days now, and already i'm 1.2 grand up, and this is from $100 NL tables. That's 12 buyins profit. And why? Because, it too, is swarming with fish...oh and ODDS STAND UP. I am actually playing hold'em, instead of "grab your nuts, close your eyes and hope your 75% favourite hand on the flop stands up" (and in most cases, it won't)

Fin.

I'm actually moving to Full Tilt on Monday to give that a good blast. I got a rakeback deal and the welcome bonus of $600 is just too tempting to pass up. To be honest, the rakeback was the main thing keeping me at PKR. I have played Party and PokerStars and enjoyed them, but I found Party's software too fast and hard to follow. I like PokerStars but a huge lack of bonuses and rakeback etc make Full Tilt seem a better prospect. The only downside to Full Tilt was the deposit methods. My bankroll sits in my own seperate bank account and most sites accept the UK debit cards as a deposit / withdrawal method but Full Tilt doesn't. So I had to set up a Netteller account which charges 3.9% for deposits and £1 for withdrawals to and from my bank . It's also taken a week to set up and verify my bank account and because of newcomer deposit restrictions of £125 per day, I have had to add money over several days so I can make a healthy deposit to Full Tilt to take advantage of the sign up bonus.

Anyway, I've played on play money there and even sat and watched a few 9 seater cash games to see how things pan out and it looks and feels nice. I haven't seen anything crazy yet at the cash tables but obviously there have been stupid beats on the play tables, but they move all-in with anything so that doesn't count. lol

So how are you finding Full Tilt Mambo? Enjoying it? Hating it? Recomened it?

Well out of both Full Tilt and Hollywood, i've won the most at the latter. I stupidly chose the $1000 + ipod nano signup bonus with HW though, and i've now realised how hard it's going to be to clear - it gets released in $200 increments...yet even after playing for just over 10 days, i'm only 1/3 of the way to clearing the first. But still, surely i'll clear it within a month so it'll be around the same as I had from PKR as rakeback p/month

About Full Tilt though...it's a whole different ballgame to PKR, so I suggest during your first few session you drop down a limit, just to get into the swing of things.
You definately need to play more than one table there though, depending on how many monitors you've got i'd say 3 to 5 open tables. Personally I play 3 on FT and then 2 on HW (chunkier software) on two 20" monitors.
And regarding the FT deposit bonus, at the $100 NL tables i'd say I clear $40 of the bonus every 4 hours I play. So in theory it's going to take me just 15 sessions to clear the full $600...amazing!

I just withfrew my finds from pkr - check the anything goes thread - why? summary: poor value, too slow, too many idiots.

Nice to see some people are finally gaining common sense :P

Oh - while I'm on the move - what's FT like? say , in comparison to PP? (I'm a bit of a noob)

I'll tell you what I like about PP then you can give me your views:

Speed (I like the madly fast games - particularly that people autofold unless they are trying to mislead - they just get on with it - obv it slows down a bit when a few are left - why make a drama out of folding 3 7 off?)
Variety - lots of tournies of all types (steps, shootout etc)
Daily 2k GTD for $6 (not really into freerolls)
Easy SnG competition

What I don't like, btw, it the EST time system - means an aweful lot of good games are on when I'm asleep.

- I won my common sense in a heads up at PP :-p

It's pretty similar to PP, but hands down has the best deposit bonus going.

I've not played at PP since i've had a 'stable' bankroll and ironed out the glitches in my game...so as for the difference in competition, I can't give ya much advice to be honest but i'd say they are both roughly the same.
The site is busy at all hours...we're talking over ten 9-seater tables (medium stakes and below) 24 hours a day ;] Oh and SNG's fill up in under a minute...