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Old 10-14-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Did I play these hands wrong? or just poker?

Table #4407114 - Mill House
Starting Hand #215933126
Last Hand #215932527
Game Type: Hold'em
Limit Type: No Limit
Table Type: Ring
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.02/$0.04
Button is at seat 8
Seat 1: Scullfox - $4.63
Seat 2: misty66 - $0.88
Seat 3: W00gie - $3.18
Seat 4: darkprince1234 - $4.38
Seat 5: seven67 - $4.79
Seat 6: Pappyro - $4.94
Seat 7: TheRock87 - $5.30
Seat 8: chillkk23 - $2.50
Seat 9: Snuffsons - $1.67
Seat 10: RUBIS - $3.86
Moving Button to seat 9
RUBIS posts small blind ($0.02)
Scullfox posts big blind ($0.04)
chillkk23 posts $0.04
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Kh Kd] to W00gie
misty66 calls $0.04
W00gie raises to $0.20
darkprince1234 folds
seven67 folds
Pappyro folds
TheRock87 folds
chillkk23 calls $0.20
Snuffsons folds
RUBIS folds
Scullfox folds
misty66 calls $0.20
Dealing Flop [3d 8c 4h]
misty66 bets $0.32
W00gie raises to $0.64
chillkk23 folds
misty66 raises to $0.68 (all-in)
W00gie calls $0.68
misty66 shows [4c 3c]
W00gie shows [Kh Kd]
Dealing Turn [7d]
Dealing River [4s]
Taking Rake of $0.20 from pot 1
misty66 has Full House, 4s over 3s
misty66 wins $1.82 with: Full House, 4s over 3s
misty66 laughs her *** off.
seven67 cheers at misty66.
Seat 1: Scullfox - $4.59
Seat 2: misty66 - $1.82
Seat 3: W00gie - $2.30
Seat 4: darkprince1234 - $4.38
Seat 5: seven67 - $4.79
Seat 6: Pappyro - $4.94
Seat 7: TheRock87 - $5.30
Seat 8: chillkk23 - $2.30
Seat 9: Snuffsons - $1.67
Seat 10: RUBIS - $3.84
Scullfox: Loser!
End Of Hand #215933126

And then this one later on made me sick


Table #4407114 - Mill House
Starting Hand #215951774
Last Hand #215950899
Game Type: Hold'em
Limit Type: No Limit
Table Type: Ring
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.02/$0.04
Button is at seat 9
Seat 1: seven67 - $5.27
Seat 2: misty66 - $3.08
Seat 3: W00gie - $2.34
Seat 4: Domastir - $4.10
Seat 5: Barney32 - $3.53
Seat 6: Pappyro - $6.51
Seat 8: chillkk23 - $1.43
Seat 9: 17121712 - $4
Seat 10: RUBIS - $2.34
Moving Button to seat 10
seven67 posts small blind ($0.02)
misty66 posts big blind ($0.04)
17121712 posts $0.04
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ad As] to W00gie
misty66 claps.
W00gie raises to $0.20
Domastir folds
Barney32 folds
Pappyro folds
chillkk23 calls $0.20
17121712 calls $0.20
RUBIS folds
seven67 calls $0.20
misty66 calls $0.20
Dealing Flop [Qh 5h 6c]
Player [***NO PLAYER***] brings $4 to table [4407114]
seven67 has become disconnected and has 10 seconds to reconnect
seven67 checks
misty66 checks
W00gie bets $1
chillkk23 raises to $1.23 (all-in)
RUBIS: e
17121712 folds
seven67 folds
17121712: i would have called 50c
misty66 folds
W00gie calls $1.23
W00gie shows [Ad As]
chillkk23 shows [5d 8d]
Dealing Turn [Qs]
Dealing River [5s]
Taking Rake of $0.34 from pot 1
chillkk23 has Full House, 5s over Queens
chillkk23 wins $3.12 with: Full House, 5s over Queens
Seat 1: seven67 - $5.07
Seat 2: misty66 - $2.88
Seat 3: W00gie - $0.91
Seat 4: Domastir - $4.10
Seat 5: Barney32 - $3.53
Seat 6: Pappyro - $6.51
Seat 7: Phuzzlecash - $4
Seat 8: chillkk23 - $3.12
Seat 9: 17121712 - $3.80
Seat 10: RUBIS - $2.34
chillkk23 says yes.
End Of Hand #215951774


So basically did i play them wrong? i pushed quite hard on what i thought was a rubbish flop on both. didnt put anyone on KK or AK, ace high maybe from the play i had seen before.

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Old 10-15-2007, 12:13 AM
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I think it has more to do with the levels you're playing. I can't see anyone playing those much different. People will call and go allin with just about anything when you're playing for pennies.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:07 PM
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Thanks Nation,

I will move up levels. i just dont have a huge bankroll and was trying to build it at the lower limits before i moved up.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:31 PM
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didnt play it wrong, like pkr nation said: it's the levels everyone wants to see a flop and nobody really cares about pennies.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:48 PM
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I've moved back up a level on my SnGs simply to get away from plonkers. I was playing $5 SnGs at that's my comfort zone. I know I can always chip away at a slow profit to fund my tournaments, but I've gone back to $10 SnGs as I was finding too much stupid play was annoying me.

Move up a level, bite the bullet, and play cautiously if you are not comfortable. Or try SnGs :-)
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:50 AM
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I know what you mean Dodgey. I am currently playing $20 SnG's at Full Tilt and enjoying myself, making a nice bit of profit. I withdrew my cash again from PKR despite being in profit. My main reasons were:

1) They take an absolute age to fill up. I was once sat 45 minutes at a 10 seater $10 SnG table and there were still only 4 of us sat down, so I thought "screw that" and left. lol

2) The blind structures are a bit crappy. They rise too sharply for me and with the pace of PKR it soon becomes time to make a move, especially if you become card dead for just a couple of rounds

3) Numpty's making crazy calls and plays (although I have seen some weird calls/plays on Full Tilt too)

So as usual, I had a bit of rakeback paid in and decided to just blow it away for a bit of fun. I entered a $5 10 seater SnG. First hand I have K-K. I make a standard raise, one caller, then a re-raiser. I decide to gamble and push all-in. Both guys call. One shows Q-Q and I am happy. The other shows 8-9 off suit and I laugh. I think I might treble up on the first hand! Alas, Mr Numpty-I-have-connecting-cards-so-that's-good-enough-to-call-two-all-ins sucks out. An 8 hit the flop and a 9 hit the turn. This is where I try and tilt him and it works to a degree (while I was needling him he pushed all-in with ace high and ran into trips). I call him a donk and a muppet and say he can't play poker (I was laughing while doing this, I wasn't bothered about $5 but I just wanted to wind him up). He said if anyone goes all-in on the first hand he would always call with any two cards and his bank balance proves it always works. Make of that what you will. lol

And that's the problem. These donks who suck out and get lucky actually think they are good players and so will carry on doing what they do. And believe me, I have seen a few mad gamblers crash and burn on Full Tilt when they run into good players (and I have taken a few down too )

I have noticed a fair difference in standard between $5 and $20. Luckily, there are still bad players at the $20 level. But there are also some good players that can make it hard to win.

And back to the point, moving up in levels is definitely a good thing because the lower level guys just don't care about the little bit of cash they have staked and that leads to erratic, crazy play

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Old 10-17-2007, 11:00 PM
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Staying off-topic, well sort of, :-) ... I just played a cash table 5/10c on good old cake. It's so much fun. If you are in the mind to play solid reliable poker then it can be a giggle. Plonkerfest! - I got KK and raised 5xbb (4xbb does not cut it on cake small stakes). Everyone called. Two went all in on the flop. I bailed out.

You have to adjust drastically on a cash game with overly loose players, but at least you can adjust. (I doubled up over a short period). Thing is, on SnGs you can't adjust to a table like that, you get blinded out. You have to gamble.

I've def. found 10$ SnGs are far less prone to plonkers. You'd think you want plonkers to milk them, but in a SnG/Tourney, you want bad players, not plonkers. There is a huge difference. Bad players chase the junk to the river and lose. Plonkers push you all in with anything and put your tournie at stake for no good reason.

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Old 11-04-2007, 10:31 PM
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hey Woogie,

what Pkr nation said is soooo true. Ppl will call anything for pennies.

I play alot of micro limit and get that happening to me quite a bit.

One piece of advice i can give (no guarantees ) is that standard raises dont do a thing at that price. Crank it up a notch or two, i like 32c personally. U might not get a caller but it usually takes the nimrods out of it, and than u are able to judge what your up against more effectively after the flop. Good Luck m8. Hope to see u at a table again.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:58 PM
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25/50cents is a good price point, you still get the donks who are obviously playing their entire bankroll (you know they join with $43.23) and you cant work out in a few hands if they are scared money or there to gamble.

You can adjust and help relieve them of there money.

I am at home at $1/2 nothing sweeter than rich donks but I am building my bankroll and it only allows for 25cent/50cent cash games atm.
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