Here is an interesting poser that I wouldn't mind a few views on. I lost a whole buy-in today in one hand, but I had the odds to call.

Basically, I had Ac - 5c in the BB. There had been a small raise from mid position and one other caller. It wasn't much for me to call so I also called.

The flop came down something like 8c - 7c - Qd (I can't fully remember)

So I had the nut flush draw. I bet out the pot. Then all hell broke loose. The next guy pushed all-in. And then the other one did too! So 2 all-ins and it was back to me. A few things are going through my mind here. A-Q and/or trips seemed to be whirring around my head.

But the fact remained, I could beat those hands if I hit my nut flush. I know it's around 2-1 for me to hit by the river and those are the pot odds I have with 2 all-ins in front of me.

I made the call based purely on pot odds. One guy had K-K, the other 7-7. So a big overpair and trips.

Both the turn and river helped no one and the trip 7's took it down.

Now this is not a moan. I accepted this gracefully. Obviously I wished I hadn't done it when I lost, but if a club had hit I would have trebled up instead of the the guy with 7-7.

This was a cash game and the question is: Did I do the right thing? Would you have called in my position?

Given the odds, I think I did make the right call even though I did lose, but I would be interested to hear any thoughts about it and I am happy to take any advise.

Well, the call isnt a bad play. Personally, I dont make it though. My brand of poker is characterized by making hands and forcing my opponents to pay. This still is not a bad call, since, as you pointed out, you were potted in to call.

One thing I change, as well: I dont lead out. When someone takes the lead in the hand, I generally let them keep the lead. This way, you essentially put yourself in the dealer position, by checking, you get to see what action will happen behind you.

So, here is how it woudl have went for me: check the flop, see a bet, an allin, and I probably let go of the hand.

Now, for you, it was a fine call, yet, I am not sure the style of play is a winning style, with the leadout and call.

Just my couple of pennies.

in a tourney i would call , cashgame i only play safe when i know i got it so i would fold. different story if the flop was 2c/4c/Qd, then i would push.
Its not a bad call at all but in my eyes not a hand to give away cash.
Think like this:''there is always a better spot to get your money in''
Strictly cashgames though pushing allin in tourneys with this is solid.

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I would have fold pre flop
with action ahead of me, and the blinds still to act.... which I wouldn't be calling a re raise if they did re-raise.

I never assume the flush draw pre flop, so I see it as a weak ace.

I also would have left the table, after that hand was over.

I disagree here Ass.

I am interpreting small raise as a minimum bump raise, or 2x BB. With one caller, a SB, and your BB, there are 5.5 BBs in the pot, costing you 1 to see a flop, giving you 5.5-1 odds. I dont think I can fold for those odds with suited connectors (esp with a shot at nut flush).

thats fine

I am interpreting a small raise a raise while I am holding shyt cards.
sorry but A5 sooted to me is not a hand I want to play 3+ players
and surely would never call a re raise pre flop if the blinds did.

now on to the flop, odds or not, I am not calling off my entire stack on a draw that could easily be beat. full house, straight flush....
or even worse not making anything.....

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm still learning loads about poker so any advise / views is very welcome.

I think this is definitely a lesson learnt and not something i will be doing again. I also discovered a startling reality fact when I put this hand into a calculator which definitely shows I made the wrong play. To all of you who said I should not have called you were 100% correct.

Here are the calculator results with the percentage of winning the hand:

Flop: 8c - 7c - Qd

Me: Ac - 5c : 27.46%
Player 1: Ks - Kh : 5.09%
Player 2: 7s - 7h : 67.44%

These results really opened my eyes. I made the call based purely on pot odds which I correctly had. However, the 2-1 pot odds were only the odds to make the flush, but I needed odds of around 3-1 to win the hand - which I didn't have.

I got so tied up with pot odds, I didn't take into account my win odds. Something I'll certainly think about in the future and I'll put this down to a lesson learnt.

As for not calling pre-flop with Ace rag as Assistanc3 suggested, well I think this shows the different styles that players have. Ace-rag suited is a starting hand for me if I can get in cheap. It's one of those hands I'll try and limp in with. However I won't call decent raises with it. I tend to fold any ace if it's not suited if the kicker is below 10. I'll even fold A-9 off suit on the button. lol

Finally, as a bit of irony, this hand virtually replayed itself the other day, except I wasn't involved this time - but it was spooky.

Player 1 had 8-8
Player 2 had K-K
Player 3 had Ah 2h

Flop was something like 8h - 10h - 6c

They all went all-in on the flop and again the trips held up! I couldn't believe it when I saw it, almost a carbon copy!

Funny you should mention hands repeating, I've had a couple of odd ones recently... In the last 2 days holding AQ I was twice beaten all-in by AJ. Then today I was beaten twice holding a King high flush by an Ace high flush. Oh well I guess it's just the way it goes, I must try and stifle the voices in my head crying conspiracy!
Also this happened today (see below) 3 hands in a row: (and none of them any good)




Here is one of the AQ vs AJ beats:

yes its also known as a leak in someones game.

think of all the flops that will trap you into check/calling.
and if your not bluffing as your first to act on the flop, consider how many flops your gonna actually bet at.

90-95% of the time your the underdog going to the flop