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Old 01-05-2008, 03:41 PM
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This is basically a bit of Daniel Negreanu advise. I try to bet out even when I have a monster hand. Why? Well it acts as kind of a trap and it’s surprising how many players get sucked in by it.

Now a lot of the time if I flop a monster, I bet out and they fold. This is fine for me. I don’t like slow playing anymore after getting stung a few times. One hand that sticks in my mind was a hand where I finally said to myself: “No more slow playing!”. I was dealt A-A. The flop was very nice, A-8-3 rainbow and there was one other guy in the pot with me. He had called my big raise. I really hoped he had called with A-K or A-Q or 8-8 here. I decided to play slow and reel him in. I checked, so did he. Turn was a 6. Again I wasn’t worried by this at all. I checked again, and so did he. Now I’m starting to think he hasn’t hit this at all and I have this in the bag, even if it is a smallish pot. The river was a 2. I bet out the pot hoping he maybe hit a pair. To my surprise, he put in a big raise. My only thought was “I got him! He thinks I’m bluffing”. I re-raised all-in. He insta-called.

The board was A-8-3-6-2 : he turned over 5-4 suited and took it down with a straight.

Now this was in my earlier days of playing and it shows the impression this hand had on me because I can still remember it well. I was gutted. I hadn’t put him on 5-4 at all and in my blind rush to push all-in, I hadn’t seen the straight potential at all. The worse thing was, I let him win this hand. Had I bet out on the flop, he would have folded. He had absolutely nothing.

So now I bet out a lot, even if I have missed. In fact it’s sometimes good to bet, get raised, and fold. Players start to think you keep trying it on.

I have had a couple of big catches. The other day I saw a free flop in the BB with Q-9 and about 5 limpers. The flop came down Q-Q-9, 2 of them clubs. First into the pot, I bet out the size of the pot. The next guy pushed all-in. They all fold and of course I call. He showed A-x of clubs. He was drawing to runner runner aces. Lol. They didn’t come and he asked “Why bet the nuts?”. I just said “Why not?”. I really didn’t want to explain anything to him.

The reasoning behind it is that some players just simply don’t believe you have anything or you are drawing. I mean, if you have the flopped the nuts, the logical play would be to check and not scare players away. That’s what a lot of players think and expect.

And yesterday I caught my best one yet.

I was mid position with 9-9. There was a 3x BB raise before me, I called as did 2 other players. So 4 of us saw the flop. It came down 8c – 5c – 9d. Very nice for me. 2 players before me check, I bet the pot as is my style. Two fold, but one guy who checked before me called. I don’t like the check-call. Usually means a slow play. I reckon he’s either drawing or he might actually have 6-7. I’m really hoping for the board to pair on the turn.

Well it was even better. Turn was the last 9, I hit quads! In the past, I would have checked here. But now I try and be a bit clever. I wait a little, then bet half the pot. I’m trying to look like I’m drawing and don’t like that 9-9 on the board. He called. River was 10h. At this point, the other player has a lot less than the pot sat in front of him. I hope he’s hit a straight and I put him all-in. He paused, then called. I got all his cash. And what did he have? Ad – Qs! He thought I was drawing and had missed and I was bluffing the river. Because I was betting my monster, he had no idea I had it. He totally miss-read me. That said, I don’t think I would have gone past the flop with his hand, so it also has to go down as bad play on his part.

So this is why I bet my hands whether I hit or not. I also try and be consistent and bet the same amounts, such as I’ll bet the pot a lot of the time. It makes it harder for players to read me.

So come on, how would you guys have played that quad hand?
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:21 PM
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yes i totally agree, always bet, raise and bet some more, i hate slowplay even if i hit 4 of a kind on the flop, or a str8 flush not cuz im scared to lose the hand but because i know this style leads to bigger pots.
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Yep I agree, why give players another chance to make a hand that they probably don't even deserve to be in.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:31 PM
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gaztheyorkie, I understand you want to win the TPOTM contest, but can you please stop bumping really old threads. The last reply in this topic was January 19th.

And could you also work on your spelling and interpunction? The way you type now makes your posts unreadable.
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If you don't want people to reply to certain threads, maybe it would be a good idea to remove them? Some people don't check the original date of the post. Also I think it is quite rude to comment on the way someone types, maybe they are not very good at that sort of thing, they could be dyslexic for example, very rude IMO.
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I had my first royal flush on PKR the other day, and noone else had anything at all i only ended up winning $4.04 at the 25/50 table LoL.

At least i can say that i have had one now.


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Old 11-26-2008, 09:52 AM
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I had my first royal flush on PKR the other day, and noone else had anything at all i only ended up winning $4.04 at the 25/50 table LoL.

At least i can say that i have had one now.


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well done i have yet to get royal flush or ace quads but well done.
u may not have one lots of money with it but at least u did win...
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If you don't want people to reply to certain threads, maybe it would be a good idea to remove them? Some people don't check the original date of the post. Also I think it is quite rude to comment on the way someone types, maybe they are not very good at that sort of thing, they could be dyslexic for example, very rude IMO.
Yeah Dunbar that was a little harsh... I did think your comments were funny at first, but I'm worried you might have hurt poor Gaz's feelings, I reckon he's a sensitive chap!
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well done i have yet to get royal flush or ace quads but well done.
u may not have one lots of money with it but at least u did win...
Thanx M8 it was awesome couldnt believe it was just wishing someone else had hit LoL.

I have had quad K's and Q's but never A's.


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