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hellwung · #1 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 05:04 PM

What do u reckon...?

Assistanc3 · #2 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 06:27 PM

What do u reckon...? Call or fold?

fold

KingBorgo · #3 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 06:47 PM

Neither of them

PKR Nation · #4 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingBorgo

Neither of them

Over the top raise

hellwung · #5 (**permalink**) 12-22-2007, 03:11 PM

Well on this occasion Assitanc3 was correct, a fold would have been best.
I called the $200 then another $500 to see the river, missed completely and had to lay it down as I was certainly beat.
Are you guys serious about the re-raise? Seems a bit rash to me.

KingBorgo · #6 (**permalink**) 12-22-2007, 03:15 PM

You have 12 outs to the hand you are drawing to (notice I am not saying the nuts, but your money is going in if you hit one of them, which shows that you are willing to do so by the call). You are at least a coinflip to win, if not a small favorite. By raising, you put pressure on him. He can still fold. If he calls, you still have a solid chance to win. I press it all day long.

"Well on this occasion"

That phrase never determines the correct play. Whether or not a hand is made does not prove a fold or call is best. What determines this is pot odds vs win probability. Just because it didnt hit this time does not mean that a fold was the best play.

PKR Nation · #7 (**permalink**) 12-22-2007, 04:04 PM

I have to agree with Borgo on this hand, I would have raised to $700-$900 and put the pressure on him.

Assistanc3 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-22-2007, 04:08 PM

1 out to make the best hand
12 to make a hand

"the best play"
would have been folding preflop
I press that all day long : )

short stack, just passed the blinds
you can look for a better chance to get your money in
other then a drawing hand

TrueForm · #9 (**permalink**) 12-22-2007, 04:45 PM

I agree, I would have raised.

He's bet out representing the hand. You don't know where you are at all and a raise would certainly give you a good idea.

You said you called and also called the turn so you if you are willing to do that, why not raise here with that 500?

It wouldn't have cost you any more than you bet because a few things would happen. He could fold and you take it down right now. He could cold call meaning he could be chasing himself. He could re-raise and you would know exactly where you were and fold off.

If he did just call your raise with a chasing hand, there is every chance he would check the turn and you'd see the river for free. If he called your raise and bet the turn, you're probably beat so it's a fold.

You had position - so make use of it when you can

hellwung · #10 (**permalink**) 12-22-2007, 08:26 PM

The problem I have with this hand and the reason I was cautious and just called it, was because my cards are so low, even if I hit the flush It's a really crappy flush and there's a chance he's got a higher one. Also the board is paired which gives him a shot at the Full House.
As for pot odds, surely I don't have them? By calling his $200 I'm betting $200 into a $450 pot so I'm betting 2/1 with a 3/1 (roughly) chance, am I completely wrong?
I think I would be more likely to fold than re-raise this. A re-raise here would be leaning toward loose-aggresive play.

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